Imagine Dragons OOC/planning stage. We want your feedback!

I am currently working on a Dragipedia for the roleplay that will list types of dragons. If anyone has any ideas, pm me your article.

TheOperator wrote:

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"If you have nothing nice to say, don't say it at all."

I don't see why you feel obligated to come and police Maxx about his thread, and I don't really care. I have no part in this, and I don't want to.

But I just wanted to put that out there.

I've been around to put out my opinion and ask questions before setting down my critique (once the prior has been established) since I've been here. That's all I've really done. How I do things is blunt, yes, and maybe even unorthodox depending on who you ask. But how I do things is specific: if the receiving end is cooperative, the discussion will last long enough for the critique to be passed on. The best advice is often derived from hard critics as I've learned in the past. It was tough, yes. My feelings were occasionally hurt, absolutely. But it is from those people I have learned the most from, and their advice, irrevocably invaluable.

This isn't me tooting my own horn here, I'm just saying that everyone here should prepare to take a little beating once in a while if they wish to improve.

That's the thing, Lieo, we take the beating every single time one of us makes a thread from you at one point or another.

I have heard several times that too much of something is bad. I'm learning that lesson from you. You're harsh and tend to post without giving a single ounce of interest on how the person you are speaking to might feel. If you know that we are younger, acknowledge that and adapt to cooexist.

When you push, and push, and push on something for too long, it's going to have enough and push back.

But what do I know. I'm just a kid.

Now, I've thrown in plenty more than two cents. I wont allow you to continue the argument as usual and make a fool out of me again. I'm done.

When I was upset when my mother or my father was lecturing me about something I didn't want to hear, they had this saying that they have popularized so much that it has been integrated into my vocabulary.

Tough CENSORED.

Lieo wrote:

TheOperator wrote:

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"If you have nothing nice to say, don't say it at all."

I don't see why you feel obligated to come and police Maxx about his thread, and I don't really care. I have no part in this, and I don't want to.

But I just wanted to put that out there.

I've been around to put out my opinion and ask questions before setting down my critique (once the prior has been established) since I've been here. That's all I've really done. How I do things is blunt, yes, and maybe even unorthodox depending on who you ask. But how I do things is specific: if the receiving end is cooperative, the discussion will last long enough for the critique to be passed on. The best advice is often derived from hard critics as I've learned in the past. It was tough, yes. My feelings were occasionally hurt, absolutely. But it is from those people I have learned the most from, and their advice, irrevocably invaluable.

This isn't me tooting my own horn here, I'm just saying that everyone here should prepare to take a little beating once in a while if they wish to improve.

I suppose you are right; the real world isn't as nice as we wish it could be. I'm sorry for blowing my temper, I just though you were being a jerk lol!

However, if I may, i still don't understand the problem you had with Wan getting married and having an egg before he went to defeat the machine in the prologue. Dragons live to 500 years and are considered healthy from year 50-375, approximately. I never said how old he was in the prologue, so he could have had his children before he went to war. The other two critiques I more or less understand, but that one I simply do not get.

Also, with the intelligent machine; it's basically an ancient GLAdos, except it was enchanted using magic. It was once a mindless machine (as I believe GLAdos was, right?), but then everything went all screwy and centuries of damage has caused it to go haywire, giving it this drive to destroy all life.


Now let's stop this argument before somebody loses an eye please!

Maxx Toron wrote:

Lieo wrote:

TheOperator wrote:

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"If you have nothing nice to say, don't say it at all."

I don't see why you feel obligated to come and police Maxx about his thread, and I don't really care. I have no part in this, and I don't want to.

But I just wanted to put that out there.

I've been around to put out my opinion and ask questions before setting down my critique (once the prior has been established) since I've been here. That's all I've really done. How I do things is blunt, yes, and maybe even unorthodox depending on who you ask. But how I do things is specific: if the receiving end is cooperative, the discussion will last long enough for the critique to be passed on. The best advice is often derived from hard critics as I've learned in the past. It was tough, yes. My feelings were occasionally hurt, absolutely. But it is from those people I have learned the most from, and their advice, irrevocably invaluable.

This isn't me tooting my own horn here, I'm just saying that everyone here should prepare to take a little beating once in a while if they wish to improve.

I suppose you are right; the real world isn't as nice as we wish it could be. I'm sorry for blowing my temper, I just though you were being a jerk lol!

Only human.

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However, if I may, i still don't understand the problem you had with Wan getting married and having an egg before he went to defeat the machine in the prologue. Dragons live to 500 years and are considered healthy from year 50-375, approximately. I never said how old he was in the prologue, so he could have had his children before he went to war. The other two critiques I more or less understand, but that one I simply do not get.

It is entirely possible I have made the mistake while reading, assuming that Wan was created by the Great Spirit to defeat the machine. That would imply a certain, limited amount of time before his solitude and protecting the machine. It hasn't been mentioned of any spouse either. But as said, it's likely I filled in the blanks by my own (which still shouldn't be happening).

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Also, with the intelligent machine; it's basically an ancient GLAdos, except it was enchanted using magic. It was once a mindless machine (as I believe GLAdos was, right?), but then everything went all screwy and centuries of damage has caused it to go haywire, giving it this drive to destroy all life.

I have never played Portal. Regardless, I don't think a machine would need magical enchantment, otherwise it would be more of a golem than it is a mechanism.

Then think of it as a really angry stationary golem, if it helps you sleep at night!

So, I assume that form your rating, you won't be joining?

That rating was more of a joke than anything official. But yes; I won't be joining. Dragons died off for me long ago.

Fair enough.

Finished with my second dragon. He's evolved in my mind from weak and helpless-looking, to swift, clever, and dangerous...he also turned into a master thief and swordsman along the way, but he's still pretty small, and couldn't destroy most things in a fight...unless you're a humanoid, that changes things.

Name: Tenebris
Gender: Male
Age: 100
Species: Shade Lurker Dragon (Self-Declared Species)
Length: 4’0” (Tail makes up roughly 2’0”)
Weight: 8lbs.
Wingspan: 12’0”

Appearance: Tenebris is a very unique dragon in appearance, but due to his small size, seems far less threatening than he really is. He resembles most western dragon breeds, possessing four legs, wings, and a distinct body, unlike the more serpentine eastern breeds. Tenebris has a very lean build, much like a greyhound, with long, powerful legs, a deep chest, and a flexible spine, which allow him to move very quickly when running. His feet are like raccoon paws, and are incredibly dexterous, along with a sixth digit that functions like an opposable thumb. His claws are also far sharper than a normal raccoon’s, and much stronger, capable of leaving deep, painful cuts. Despite the shape of his legs, Tenebris is capable of standing on his hind legs for short periods, freeing up his front claws. His tail is long and thin, making up half of his entire body length, and on the tip, he possesses a long barb that does not appear to have any qualities like that of a bone or sharpened scale, but more the characteristics of a razor-sharp, double-edged blade. This barb is incredibly hard, and is useful for many different things. Tenebris’ entire body is covered in sleek armored plates, like that of a giant plated lizard, and past his long, arching neck, his face is much like that of a Bengal monitor lizard. At the base of his skull he has two horns shaped similarly to that of a Nyala Antelope. The inside of his mouth is white, and so is his tongue. He has small, needle-like teeth. Raised triangular scales on his back form a single row of spines on his back. Tenebris’ wings are very large, being three times his length, and when fully opened, appear to be sail or tent-like in shape, the arm joint being completely straight, and the size of the wings dwarfing the rest of his body, making him seem far larger. Tenebris’ main coloration is pure black, but despite the sleek texture of his scales, light does not seem to reflect harshly off of him, like it should, and instead, seems to dissipate through his scales like mist, making his scales seem far duller in appearance, and more like smooth leathery skin. His horns and blade-like tail also have similar characteristics, being incredibly sleek and sharp, but reflecting the light as though it were dissipating into mist. This often can be dangerous, as this makes his tail and horns look far duller than they truly are, which leads enemies to believe they are not capable of causing injury. Tenebris also has raccoon-like markings on his face, but in reverse colors, the markings around his eyes being pale grey, contrasting with his black scales, and being ringed by white. Despite this change in colors, the odd lighting effect does not leave Tenebris’ scales. Tenebris’ eyes are by far the most unique quality of his appearance. His eyes are an almost-black shade of blue, filled with points of white that look like stars. Near the edge of his elliptical pupils, the blue brightens, making it look as though his eyes were rifts in the night sky. His eyes appear to give off a faint aventurescence luster or glow, and therefore also seem to glitter constantly. Many people are mesmerized by this. His most unusual factor about his appearance, however, is Tenebris’ shadow; he does not cast one at all, and this often disorients people to some degree, or at least confuses them, because it is difficult to tell how he is affected by light. This often leads those who see him to believe his is the concentrated substance of shadows and mist himself.

Personality: Tenebris is easily among one of the most mischievous dragons that one could encounter. Due to his small size and skill set, he is able to sneak into the towns and strongholds of humanoids quite easily, without ever being seen or even arousing suspicion. His incredible skill in sneaking has become a sort of profession, and once inside a settlement, he is known to toy with various people that he selects. Those around him will discover eggs or chickens missing from the coop, or sometimes shapes will dart around the edge of their vision, but never directly in front. On a few occasions, shadows seem to be in places where there should not be one. Those in charge of prisons or treasure chests may also find that locks have been picked, the object of containment set free, or stolen, with no sign of the thief. Even the most heavily-guarded castle may be entered as easily as a child’s play-pen. Tenebris is also a very talented swordsman, but not because he wields a sword. Instead, he is incredibly skilled in using his barbed tail as a kind of katana, easily besting the strongest warriors. Tenebris is multilingual, and also knows how to read and write multiple languages. He is very secretive, however, and has so far never contacted a humanoid directly.

Abilities: Tenebris, despite his incredibly small size, has a far more unique skill set than one might think. Unlike most dragons, Tenebris does not produce traditional fire or ice as a breath. Instead, he has the capability to shoot small fist-sized balls of bluish-violet plasma, which creates a flash of light, and usually a small fire, wherever they strike. This makes his fire less likely to hit moving targets, but causes a solid impact. The resulting flames burn at a temperature of 1,800 degrees Fahrenheit, about the temperature of a candle, but while in the shape of a ball, causes an almost physical impact. Tenebris’ most unique abilities, however, are those he has that are linked to shadows. He does not cast a shadow, making him talented at hiding in even the most obvious of places. He can also fade from view to the point that he is nearly invisible, but a faint dark shape still remains, drifting like mist. Tenebris can also fuse into a shadow on the ground, and hide in the shadows cast by objects or things. Light does not appear to cause any injury to him, although bright light makes it more difficult to hide. When flying, Tenebris is blindingly fast, flying up to 500 miles per hour, due to his lighter weight, large wings, and aerodynamic shape. It is also believed, but not proven, that he may also move fast due to his shadow abilities. When running on the ground, he can go up to 25 miles per hour, reaching this speed incredibly fast from a rest position, making catching him, even in enclosed areas, a difficult task. Tenebris has good night vision, also, which makes him much better at his self-proclaimed profession of thievery. His incredibly hard, sharp claws, combined with dexterous hands with opposable thumbs, make him good at picking locks, and also double as close-combat weapons. His sharp teeth are also useful for fighting, and he can jab attackers with his horns, if need be. His most powerful close-combat weapon, however, is the long, double-edged barb on his tail, which so far appears to be unbreakable, and never needs to be sharpened. This barb’s sharpness rivals that of a katana blade, and due to the tail being prehensile, is very accurate as well. Tenebris’ skills in wielding this barb easily surpass that of a master swordsman.

Other: Time

Very interesting. Accepted!

Also, vipera, while I have you, I have two requests to make of you;

1. Can you add your dragons to the Dragipedia?

2. I am making a character now that is a Red Baron Ace Dragon. Do you think you can draw one for me? If the description isn't good enough, i can make it more detailed.

I can try, but I am not exactly positive how well things will go with it.

I wanted to warn you all about this, because it wouldn't be fair to do so otherwise.

Whatever you do, dont fire into a Zilant's smoke cloud. Once that thing is set, the second it catches fire it's going to litterally explode. When that happens, it's either going to vaporize you, or, in a tyrant dragon's case, cause very bad things as a result of you NOT get vaporized.

TheOperator wrote:

I wanted to warn you all about this, because it wouldn't be fair to do so otherwise.

Whatever you do, dont fire into a Zilant's smoke cloud. Once that thing is set, the second it catches fire it's going to litterally explode. When that happens, it's either going to vaporize you, or, in a tyrant dragon's case, cause very bad things as a result of you NOT get vaporized.

define very bad things.

If you manage to escape the flames itself, but not make it out of the blast radius, the kinetic energy released will litterally shut your nervous system down. This can do many things. None of which are very good.

1. Send you soaring face first into the dirt, bruised and bloodied and only that (If you're lucky).

2. Paralyze you temporarily (You'll be out of it.)

3. Paralyze you temporarily/permanently in a the area closest to explosion (You'll need a bit of help getting back up.)

4. Paralyze you permanlty in a large area of your body (You wont get back up).

5. Make you not feel pain when you are injured (Not good. You could be running around on a broken leg and not even know it).

6. Kill you (Should've just stayed in the flames).


Remember, I just breath the cloud. This whole breath ability is based on decisions you make and whoever decided they want to watch the gerneal area burst into flames is the one to blame. I'm just letting you all know why you SHOULDNT aim for the smoky cloud the Zilant spews out.

so is the Zilant immune to it's own smoke explosions?

Fire if fire. So noo. But at that point it wouldn't matter, a Zilant would breath it, and if it was probably going to catch, it's be out of there before it was deep fried.

Sahloknir would definitely be in the air as he breathed the smoke, and then take off. As I stated, the Zilant species very rarely, if ever touch the ground. They are almost always in the air.

I mean, is the Zilant immune to the shockwave damage?

I wouldn't think so, if a Zilant even works like a normal dragon. I'm still trying to figure out exactly how the Zilant functions myself.

Assuming that it is normal, then no. It would have to get out of the blast radius.

Assuming it doesn't, the blast might have a different effect. It depends if the thing has NERVES in it's body.

And an explosion is an explosion. I can't help but wonder what kind of reactive gas is inside the dragon's body that is so sensitive to fire or heat that it explodes. Propane based? I don't think propane explodes (maybe in a burst of flames, but there's no sonic boom esque kinetic energy). It could be an element all on its own that would make it super sensitive to heat and have severe reactions to open flame.

Also, a common misconception I see among roleplayers is that kinetic energy is its own thing. As in, woosh, a wave of kinetic energy. No. An explosion sends force out. Like what I said with the vacuum if a lot of something is in a present spot and less space is taken upon in another spot, you will be pushed out of the way. Kind of the same way with the explosion, but there is a lot of outward force going along with it. Potential energy is the potential of a certain object achieving kinetic energy. If a block is on a flat surface, it has little to no potential energy. If a ball is balance on top of a hill, there's a lot of potential energy. Kinetic energy is the energy made by a moving object. The brick has no kinetic energy, but if you were to push the ball down the hill, it would have a lot of kinetic energy and would only get higher as the ball's momentum builds up. Kinetic energy = energy made by moving objects.

So I really don't want to see all the waves of pure kinetic energy bullshit. Unless the nerves in your leg are severely damaged upon the fall, the force pushing you won't paralyze you. The only force of energy and movement that can do that to you is a sonic boom, and that would rip you apart.

IC will be up either tonight or tomorrow night. I'll see if I can do it tonight, but I have a chem test to study for.

CENSORED stoichiometry...

I agree with Lieo on this one, his facts about energy are completely accurate.

In my own opinion, the worse a shock wave could do is probably throw you around, and break a glass window, if there's one nearby. I don't think there's a high chance of any form of paralysis, although if someone heard the blast loudly enough, they might go deaf.

You could always take the magic route...

but yeah, Lieo is completely right.

I dunno, Maxx, I have an idea for a sub-plot that would involve my two dragons, but it would also require me to make two more characters, an incredibly young She-de guard who's a complete rookie, yet speaks the Maoren language and managed to transfer away from his home village, and an equally young Maoren thief. I have an idea for a romance in the story, and it'll be pretty interesting to see how it goes.

Okay, however don't go overboard on the non-dragons characters.

Also, have you seen the updated Ramiel sheet on Storytellers?