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Lieo Willy Wonka
Posts : 754 Join date : 2012-11-06 Location : A WORLD OF HOT, A WORLD OF SOOT - THE WORLD OF INDUSTRY
| Subject: Re: Academy 218 - Superpower School OOC (Always Open) Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:55 am | |
| Below contains content concerning the conversation regarding the realism within the RP. - Spoiler:
Shadows also stretch and are intangible, my friend, but I haven't bothered to point those out to you. Shadows are the result of an object blocking light and doesn't really lock an object into place. This hasn't been called into question because of suspension of disbelief, but if were were to continue with that, you could essentially freeze into place the entire school. So if we're going with webs with shadow-like qualities, then they'd also have to be adhesive. But this is beside the point I want to get at.
If something is able to work, it works. If something cannot work and cannot occur naturally - under any means - we have to revise it otherwise it's wrong. This of course can't really apply to superpowers of course, but what we're doing now is aiming for a good and believable scene. I do not care who wins, but a lot of what I'm seeing is unbelievable and you don't seem to, under any circumstance, be willing to make a compromise despite the the actions of the characters that has played out within the roleplay. If something cannot realistically work, I feel obligated as a writer to rectify that error.
We can't go back in time and edit all the post to satisfy you and your desire for the outcome of the story. It's time consuming and it isn't benefiting the story as a whole in the end - it's benefiting you. However, as a writer I also feel inclined to help you make these compromises so that we can all come out feeling satisfied in the end. If you would work with me and the others, I'm sure that we can come to some agreement. Unfortunately it feels to me there's a bit of "us vs. them" and I think that's undesirable since the aim here is to roleplay, not to win. Nothing I ever call out is personal and is, with all intentions, for the greater good of Allen's RP.
That said, I'm watching your posts and I'm not seeing a lot of compromise in the fight. So far me, Lone, and Shade have taken some form of damage or fault in some way or another. Drake's balls were squeezed, Abe missed his target and crashed into the ground twice (I also plan on him taking the punch to the back), and Shade even sacrificed the use of his character by freezing him solid. I'm watching Cassandra, Vespera, and Vance all flawlessly - or near flawlessly - performing their maneuvers, combos, tactics, et cetera. You seem in this to win it and that concerns me. I'm not saying this personally and I know I'm not the only one who thinks this (but I'm not naming any names). I think the first step is to address the problem and acknowledge it exists so we can fix that before everything falls apart.
I don't know how to say this without sounding like a dick, but I don't care about you, per se. The roleplay, the story, my questions and challenges, it has never been about you. My only concern is for Allen's roleplay and I wish to see its ending come to fruition. This is a great RP, which I'm sure we can all agree on, and I hope that all of us can put our best efforts into it so it can stay great.
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| | | True Night Killer
Posts : 1280 Join date : 2013-06-29 Location : Everywhere and nowhere.
| Subject: Re: Academy 218 - Superpower School OOC (Always Open) Thu Feb 20, 2014 4:27 am | |
| I agree with you wholeheartedly, Shade. I am only tired of the insignificant things that have been given undue attention. Although, we can hardly agree on the important things either. The only thing that has been resolved peacefully that I can think of is Abe being able to bend Vance out of shape.
Lieo, you are treating me like a child, and implying that you speak for more than just yourself in all the matters you covered. Now I have spoken to some people, and you do have some truth about how they feel. I do not intend for the RP to revolve around me, I don't care about winning, though I can see where you're coming from. However, I still feel that much of what you said was unwarranted.
I changed my post, so you can get off the shadow webs. I hope that this hasn't caused any lasting impression, and that we can roleplay without arguing so heavily for the rest of the arena fight. | |
| | | Celo "The Moms" Alien Ninja Frog Empress
Posts : 2136 Join date : 2013-06-29 Age : 27 Location : who knows
| Subject: Re: Academy 218 - Superpower School OOC (Always Open) Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:04 pm | |
| You know what guys? I give up with roleplaying. I just give up. I have been trying to and failing at involving character reaction. Sure, I'm a horrible writer. But you his don't need to ignore my posts and make me feel completely invisible by not even so much as acknowledging my characters. I have been pulling posts out of my rear due to lack of motivation and I am kind of fed up with it. Whats the point of posting if everyoe just ignores you and your characters even when you try to involve them? I'm sorry if I'm coming across as rude, mean, naive, narcissistic, or annoying right now (because I'm sure that's how some you you will probably think of me when you read this), but that's seriously how I've felt for the past three or four posts from my characters. | |
| | | Lieo Willy Wonka
Posts : 754 Join date : 2012-11-06 Location : A WORLD OF HOT, A WORLD OF SOOT - THE WORLD OF INDUSTRY
| Subject: Re: Academy 218 - Superpower School OOC (Always Open) Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:00 pm | |
| - True Night wrote:
- Lieo, you are treating me like a child, and implying that you speak for more than just yourself in all the matters you covered. Now I have spoken to some people, and you do have some truth about how they feel. I do not intend for the RP to revolve around me, I don't care about winning, though I can see where you're coming from. However, I still feel that much of what you said was unwarranted.
I changed my post, so you can get off the shadow webs. I hope that this hasn't caused any lasting impression, and that we can roleplay without arguing so heavily for the rest of the arena fight. No, I am treating you as an equal. Treating you as I would anyone else so that we may maturely settle the disagreement and come to a more satisfying conclusion. Like Shade said, if we aren't going to enforce realism, when are we? That sort of inconsistency messes with the flow and it's necessary to point out and stop rule breaking before it begins. You can deal with what I said however you wish, though I would appreciate if we eliminated the aspect of personal gain and deal with the facts as they are. We can settle it like adults, or alternatively, you can feel insulted if that is what you wish. However, the latter is what I would expect from a child and I think you are much smarter than that. No lasting impression has been made, don't you worry. I'm sure we can finish the scene before we run into any more trouble. - Celo the Impossible wrote:
- You know what guys? I give up with roleplaying. I just give up. I have been trying to and failing at involving character reaction. Sure, I'm a horrible writer. But you his don't need to ignore my posts and make me feel completely invisible by not even so much as acknowledging my characters. I have been pulling posts out of my rear due to lack of motivation and I am kind of fed up with it. Whats the point of posting if everyoe just ignores you and your characters even when you try to involve them? I'm sorry if I'm coming across as rude, mean, naive, narcissistic, or annoying right now (because I'm sure that's how some you you will probably think of me when you read this), but that's seriously how I've felt for the past three or four posts from my characters.
Note that, during the latest posts, Lone has more than three people to respond to. I'm looking at the previous post regarding the guy sleeping next to the vending machine, and HalfThere posted so that it would respond and answer the questions of more than one person, plus you posted Mina in her dorm. Before that, you basically had all of your characters interact with each other and off to the sidelines, or no one at all and Len and Bre took off running in a race. Nobody really has much opportunity to respond and remember that in the arena lobby, there's a LOT of characters being played and not everyone can suss out everything. So far, Damon is only making idle chatter with Adam, so if you want Jaylin and Kynan to talk to Damon, you can. I'd be glad to help.
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| | | Celo "The Moms" Alien Ninja Frog Empress
Posts : 2136 Join date : 2013-06-29 Age : 27 Location : who knows
| Subject: Re: Academy 218 - Superpower School OOC (Always Open) Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:06 pm | |
| I'm sorry. I was just frustrated with my lack of post ideas and blaming it on everyone else. Please forgive me. | |
| | | Lieo Willy Wonka
Posts : 754 Join date : 2012-11-06 Location : A WORLD OF HOT, A WORLD OF SOOT - THE WORLD OF INDUSTRY
| Subject: Re: Academy 218 - Superpower School OOC (Always Open) Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:19 pm | |
| One simple "sorry" should cut it, there's no need to grovel!
But yeah, we can work something out later so you can get some interaction. | |
| | | Mr Allen J Artist out of Work
Posts : 2321 Join date : 2013-01-12 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: Academy 218 - Superpower School OOC (Always Open) Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:24 pm | |
| Really Celo, it's my fault for dickishly ignoring your posts because I couldn't think of a response, and because I was rushing. I'm sorry for that. I'll see if I can edit my last post. | |
| | | Celo "The Moms" Alien Ninja Frog Empress
Posts : 2136 Join date : 2013-06-29 Age : 27 Location : who knows
| Subject: Re: Academy 218 - Superpower School OOC (Always Open) Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:33 pm | |
| No- it's fine- really ^_^' I was in a bad mood this morning and looking for something to let out my steam at. Sorry. | |
| | | True Night Killer
Posts : 1280 Join date : 2013-06-29 Location : Everywhere and nowhere.
| Subject: Re: Academy 218 - Superpower School OOC (Always Open) Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:35 pm | |
| - Lieo wrote:
- No, I am treating you as an equal. Treating you as I would anyone else so that we may maturely settle the disagreement and come to a more satisfying conclusion. Like Shade said, if we aren't going to enforce realism, when are we? That sort of inconsistency messes with the flow and it's necessary to point out and stop rule breaking before it begins. You can deal with what I said however you wish, though I would appreciate if we eliminated the aspect of personal gain and deal with the facts as they are. We can settle it like adults, or alternatively, you can feel insulted if that is what you wish. However, the latter is what I would expect from a child and I think you are much smarter than that.
No lasting impression has been made, don't you worry. I'm sure we can finish the scene before we run into any more trouble. I feel I'm being treated like an equal when I'm told what's wrong, and exactly why it's wrong with evidence. You have many good arguments, in which you did just that. After talking to some people I have rectified my mistakes as much as possible. There was also some conjecture, which like I said I can understand to an extent. However, if we are dealing in facts, then personal gain never played a part to begin with. You are correct in how I take it being my choice, so I'm not going to let it affect me.
I'm glad to hear that, and I sincerely hope you're right. | |
| | | The Real Shade Jehovah's Thickness
Posts : 582 Join date : 2012-12-02
| Subject: Re: Academy 218 - Superpower School OOC (Always Open) Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:37 pm | |
| Celo-I have a feeling you're referring partially to me, and I take total blame for that. This doesn't excuse my mistakes, but up until last week (and starting up again now) I've been incredibly busy and pressed for time when I could RP, and as a result I usually missed some important details. Currently, Arianna's preoccupied with Jake, but I'd otherwise have Arianna acknowledging your characters. I'm really sorry if you took my hastiness as a slight, I don't consider you to be a poor writer at all. Hope whatever put you in a bad mood earlier has passed, but I don't blame you for the rant either. | |
| | | Celo "The Moms" Alien Ninja Frog Empress
Posts : 2136 Join date : 2013-06-29 Age : 27 Location : who knows
| Subject: Re: Academy 218 - Superpower School OOC (Always Open) Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:42 pm | |
| No-it wasn't addressed towards anyone. I feel really guilty about it now- I am just having problems at home right now an took my anger out on everyone else. I'm sorry. | |
| | | True Night Killer
Posts : 1280 Join date : 2013-06-29 Location : Everywhere and nowhere.
| Subject: Re: Academy 218 - Superpower School OOC (Always Open) Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:12 am | |
| I didn't see anything necessary for Seth to respond to, and I am once again running low on time for tonight. Don't hold up for him on any ruins group posts. If anyone was even going that is. | |
| | | Maxx Cosmic Wanderer
Posts : 3527 Join date : 2012-10-21 Age : 27 Location : The Moon
| Subject: Re: Academy 218 - Superpower School OOC (Always Open) Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:31 am | |
| - Celo the Impossible wrote:
- You know what guys? I give up with roleplaying. I just give up. I have been trying to and failing at involving character reaction. Sure, I'm a horrible writer. But you his don't need to ignore my posts and make me feel completely invisible by not even so much as acknowledging my characters. I have been pulling posts out of my rear due to lack of motivation and I am kind of fed up with it. Whats the point of posting if everyoe just ignores you and your characters even when you try to involve them? I'm sorry if I'm coming across as rude, mean, naive, narcissistic, or annoying right now (because I'm sure that's how some you you will probably think of me when you read this), but that's seriously how I've felt for the past three or four posts from my characters.
Celo, I'm sorry. You're right; I've been unintentionally ignoring your characters. I guess Neal just got so overwhelmed that I wasn't sure who to respond to. I'll try in the future to not forget about you again. EDIT: Ok so I think I'm going to casually forget about Rose. She was a really good character idea but I cannot roleplay as her because I simply cannot relate to her. I can't picture going through that much bullshit in my life, and because of that I cannot properly portray her character. So, I'm not going to use her. New characters-wise, I could make one if I wanted to due to the fact that I made three sheets for a different meta rp yesterday and am now not using them, but I don't know if I will make another character because I've already made nine for this (and I've axed four). The ability idea I may use, though, will be the silliest power I've ever made. | |
| | | Mr Allen J Artist out of Work
Posts : 2321 Join date : 2013-01-12 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: Academy 218 - Superpower School OOC (Always Open) Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:07 pm | |
| Alright guys, I'm going to get this very clear. There is to be no further public arguements (On OOC thread or on chatbox) pertaining to the 218 whatsoever. They are to be done in pms. Any arguing I see will be immediately deleted.
Because some people were pushed away by all the arguing that took place. | |
| | | Mr Allen J Artist out of Work
Posts : 2321 Join date : 2013-01-12 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: Academy 218 - Superpower School OOC (Always Open) Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:50 pm | |
| Also Night, can we wrap up the battle? I'm already tired of it. | |
| | | True Night Killer
Posts : 1280 Join date : 2013-06-29 Location : Everywhere and nowhere.
| Subject: Re: Academy 218 - Superpower School OOC (Always Open) Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:54 pm | |
| Yeah, how do you want to do it? | |
| | | Mr Allen J Artist out of Work
Posts : 2321 Join date : 2013-01-12 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: Academy 218 - Superpower School OOC (Always Open) Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:53 pm | |
| Well, we can either have Drake get taken out, or Abe finishes his transformation and goes ham. Or another option that someone else comes up with - I don't really care about who wins, or who loses.
Also, I'm going to timeskip a few days to a week, for necessary reasons. | |
| | | True Night Killer
Posts : 1280 Join date : 2013-06-29 Location : Everywhere and nowhere.
| Subject: Re: Academy 218 - Superpower School OOC (Always Open) Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:49 pm | |
| I'll get in a post, and whatever outcome can be decided after that.
If your going to timeskip, what about the ruins group? | |
| | | Mr Allen J Artist out of Work
Posts : 2321 Join date : 2013-01-12 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: Academy 218 - Superpower School OOC (Always Open) Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:56 pm | |
| I'm going to timeskip AFTER we finish everything. I just want to get the fight over with. | |
| | | True Night Killer
Posts : 1280 Join date : 2013-06-29 Location : Everywhere and nowhere.
| Subject: Re: Academy 218 - Superpower School OOC (Always Open) Sun Feb 23, 2014 2:05 am | |
| I just posted, and I'll try to keep on top of it so we can wrap up the fight. If you come up with anything else I could do to hasten the end let me know. | |
| | | Lieo Willy Wonka
Posts : 754 Join date : 2012-11-06 Location : A WORLD OF HOT, A WORLD OF SOOT - THE WORLD OF INDUSTRY
| Subject: Re: Academy 218 - Superpower School OOC (Always Open) Sun Feb 23, 2014 4:55 pm | |
| I have a post for Abraham ready, but I can't post it right now. I'll finish everything this afternoon. | |
| | | The Real Shade Jehovah's Thickness
Posts : 582 Join date : 2012-12-02
| Subject: Re: Academy 218 - Superpower School OOC (Always Open) Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:16 am | |
| Sorry for the lack of posts these last few days, I was at yet another competition. There's like a two month period where I'm super busy and then it's nothing for the rest of the year. Also, I wanted to edit Arianna's power a bit and clarify it. - Me wrote:
- Arianna, simply put, is a siren.
To clarify, Arianna's voice has several fantastical powers, all of which are directly related to her ability to hear "the Symphony". Think of the universe as a massive orchestra, all playing perfectly in tune. Every cell, every atom, every thought and sensation, all contributes a few notes to the cosmic song. Arianna is capable of hearing this song, a blend of physics and psychology and everything in-between. This results in several interesting effects:
1) Arianna is a wunderkind with conventional music and unparalleled in every instrument, including vocal work. She's unbelievably gifted with any instrument, any style, and could very easily thrive outside the Academy with any record label she chose.
2) Arianna's voice possessing some hypnotic powers. Not to the extent of her being able to control minds, but rather her voice sounds pleasing at a cosmic level. Her voice is in sync with the cosmic Song, and it makes her laughter infectious, her lame jokes funnier, her awkward pauses unnoticeable. She's very charismatic by merit of this and can easily make friends with people, although their opinion of her may lessen when she's not speaking to them. This is especially true when she sings, and is by no means binding: merely that Arianna is more apt than not to be the center of attention. She's not wholly aware of this power, and merely thinks people like her.
3) Arianna is capable of hearing the Cosmic Song. This requires some effort, and takes energy whereas her first two powers do not. Listening to the Cosmic Song lets her pick up on things: for example, if someone's Song shifted from a happy, upbeat tune to a mournful requiem after a joke Arianna made, she could deduce that something she said offended that person greatly. This, with focus and energy, allows her to employ a wide range of conversational analysis, from knowing when people are lying to gauging people's emotions. However, this requires Arianna to be vested in what she's doing, focused on the Cosmic Song, and it tires her out. More people make it harder to discern any one section of the Song, so in a crowded room of people, it's harder to listen to someone than it would be if they were one on one.
4) Similarly to the previous power, this also requires energy. Arianna can, in the same way that you know what notes are coming in your favorite song, peer forward into the Song. This requires a lot more energy and Arianna has very little experience doing this: the easiest example of this sub-power's application would be Arianna in a fight. By listening to the beat of the fight, the rhythm and flow of the pugilists and where the Cosmic song was going, she could sense whether they were moving towards victory or defeat by what they were doing. This, of course, is a very spur-of-the-moment thing, as fights can fluctuate by a second-by-second basis, and would require absolute focus. An easier example would be how a glacier is going to move in the next fifteen minutes, but even that would be tricky. The further out this goes, the murkier and murkier her ability gets, and it increases in difficulty exponentially. Arianna is not totally aware of this aspect of her ability.
5) Arianna can alter the cosmic song. This also allows for many applications, but similarly requires considerable energy. For example, she could soothe a raging beast with her voice, changing her voice itself to something more tranquilizing. Alternatively, she could help keep a wounded comrade from bleeding out by singing something slow and reaffirming, or speed the process up by singing something quick and violent. This is greatly oversimplifying her ability: as stated before, more complicated things (for example, calming a rabid dog would take less energy than calming an angry human; helping a car that's low on gasoline run a little further would be easier than keeping someone from bleeding out) require lots more energy and focus, so if Arianna was scared or being attacked, utilizing this would be next to impossible. Furthermore, she can only alter the song: she cannot change it entirely or rewrite it herself. If someone is healthy and whistling Dixie, Arianna's not going to be able to make them keel over. If they're on their deathbed, on the verge of life and death from multiple gunshot wounds: that's a scenario she could nudge things one way or another.
The drawbacks to her power are myriad. Firstly, use of her supernatural powers-beyond her naturally charming voice and musical prodigy-ness, Arianna has to expend energy to use her gifts, just as she would to lift weights or run a mile. She doesn't have the greatest constitution-she's not going to be able to hold a world-changing melody for very long. Furthermore, has anyone who has tried to sing karoake without the lyrics can tell you, singing requires focus. Precision. Arianna's weakness or weariness leading her to miss a beat or mess up her attempt to alter the Song would hamper her ability to change it. If she was trying to save someone who was bleeding out while she was absolutely exhausted, she'd be much less effective than if she was fully rested. Thirdly, Arianna is not very aware of what she can do. She knows that the Song governs the cosmos and the people around her, and that she can nudge things a bit, but she doesn't grasp her own potential. She's not a violent person, and being very sheltered, the idea of using her powers maliciously is very foreign to her. Finally, while she has great potential and is an extremely powerful "support" character, Arianna is by no means a direct combatant. While her song could boost the morale of her allies, crush the spirits of her enemies, lull to sleep an enraged grizzly or rile up a sleeping dog, she needs something to work with. If you point a gun at her head, she's not singing her way out of it. To do more than simple "nudges" of something's nature requires tremendous amounts of effort, so pushing a mild-mannered person into a berserker rage would leave Arianna comatose for a few days. She'd be better suited for sending a PTSD-stricken alcoholic into a berserker rage-and even that would tax her. | |
| | | True Night Killer
Posts : 1280 Join date : 2013-06-29 Location : Everywhere and nowhere.
| Subject: Re: Academy 218 - Superpower School OOC (Always Open) Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:48 am | |
| It should be noted that Drake and my characters are closer to the ceiling than the floor at the moment, which is good ways above and away from Abe. | |
| | | Mr Allen J Artist out of Work
Posts : 2321 Join date : 2013-01-12 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: Academy 218 - Superpower School OOC (Always Open) Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:59 pm | |
| Yeah, Drake did get some distance so he could do his dragon attack.
And accepted Shade.
I'll wait for someone else to get a post in by the end of the day, then I'll post. | |
| | | Lieo Willy Wonka
Posts : 754 Join date : 2012-11-06 Location : A WORLD OF HOT, A WORLD OF SOOT - THE WORLD OF INDUSTRY
| Subject: Re: Academy 218 - Superpower School OOC (Always Open) Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:17 pm | |
| I knew Drake was, but I must've overlooked Vespera. Huh. I should probably edit that later so it makes more sense, like Abe throwing one of the boulders at Vespera or something. If you end up posting before I make the edit, feel free to state that is what happened so we don't have to wait on me. | |
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